Naomi’s post (below, January 5) says everything that should be said about the administration’s decision to reverse its position on end-of-life planning. She nailed the story (thank you, Naomi).
I’m tacking on a postscript only to report that tonight (January 5), Boston surgeon and New Yorker writer Dr. Atul Gawande talked about the turnaround, calling it “a tragedy” in an interview with Chris Hayes on MSNBC’s “Countdown with Keith Olbermann.” (This evening Chris Hayes was filling in for Olbermann.)
As Gawande explained, research shows that when patients have more time with their doctors to discuss end-of-life care, they are less likely to die in a hospital or in an ICU.
Most of us want to die at home. In a hospital, we are tended by strangers. Many may be kind, but, still, we are subject to the hospital’s schedule and hospital rules. As one physician who worked in an ICU explained when I was writing Money-Driven Medicine: “The patient becomes part of ‘the system.’” When she said that, I couldn’t help but think of criminals entering our prison system. Most of the time, hospital patients, like inmates, are told what will happen next. Rarely are they asked: “What would you like to happen next? Would you like to see your children this evening?”
In an ICU, visits from family and friends are even more limited, and some patients wind up strapped to their beds. Admittedly, this can be necessary. Otherwise, when patients are delirious or in pain, they may try to leap out of bed or tear out the tubes that are keeping them alive. Hospitals cannot station a nurse at the bed of each patient 24/7. And they don’t want to be sued because a patient hurt himself.
At home, relatives and close friends can take turns being at the patient’s bedside–especially if the family has help from hospice or palliative care workers taking on other tasks.
Palliative Care–How Many Patients Know That They Should Ask For It?
It’s not just that patients who receive palliative care or hospice care are more comfortable during their final weeks or months. As Gawande pointed out tonight, a recent study published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) showed that lung cancer patients who have an opportunity to talk to palliative care specialists about end-of-life care are more likely to wind up getting hospice care –and actually live longer than patients who stay in the hospital.
But most patients don’t even know what “palliative care” is. They don’t realize that it is for any patient who is seriously ill–whether or not she is dying. Palliative care experts are specially trained in controlling pain. And they also know how to talk to a patient about her options, if the current treatment doesn’t go as well as expected. At the same time, palliative care specialist let patients take the lead; they don’t push them to talk about end-of-life care.
Why Do Doctors Need to Be Paid For End-of -Life Conversations?
The regulation that has just been changed stipulated that Medicare would reimburse primary care doctors for talking to patients about end-of-life care during an annual physical.
Critics ask: “If this dialogue is so importantly, wouldn’t most primary care physicians be willing to discuss end-of-life care with Medicare patients even if they aren’t paid for their time?"
No doubt, many would have the conversation with a few patients. But if 30% or 40% of a doctor’s practice are on Medicare, she cannot afford to have long discussions that require great tact and time with all of those patients. She wouldn’t be able to make her overhead. And a doctor can’t just introduce the subject, then look at her watch after giving the patient an extra 10 or 15 minutes and say “Sorry, time’s up.”
Earlier this week, talking to Democracy Now, Gawande explained: “Emotions get opened up . . . Having really careful discussion about people’s fears and concerns” takes time." Meanwhile, “neither doctor nor patient is comfortable . . . Getting that cost-barrier out of the way, that’s crucial,” he added.
Candid as always, Gawande acknowledged that “learning to get good at these conversations” won’t happen overnight. But if Medicare encourages physicians to initiate such discussions by paying them for this service, Gawande suggested that they will begin to feel that talking about end-of-life issues is part of their “responsibility.” And with practice, they will become much more comfortable–and better able to help their patients.
Gawande should know. He has had some experience in this area. Tonight, on Countdown, he said, “I’m a cancer surgeon. I have conversations with my patients about their end-of-life frequently.” (As a surgeon he is much better paid than a primary care doctor, and can afford the extra time.) But, he points out that it can be far more difficult to broach the subject when a patient is dying.
“Recently I wrote about a young cancer patient who was diagnosed while pregnant with her first child–and, as it turned out, her only child,” Gawande recalled..(See this New Yorker article, “Letting Go.” I wrote about “Letting Go” in a recent post on palliative care.
Many doctors were involved in the case, and a “variety of errors” were made, Gawande acknowledged. “It wasn’t that lack of payment was preventing us from having end-of-life discussions,” he explained. When a patient is dying, but still undergoing treatment, and in a state of denial, these talks are extremely sensitive, and extraordinarily difficult–not just for the patient, but for a caring doctor.
“I avoided it with this patient,” Gawande admitted. The other doctors also ducked the conversation. “The result, she died in a place where she didn’t want to –spending her last days in the hospital rather than at home with her still not one-year-old child. . . . We are in a system of care that does not provide great care for terminal illnesses.”
This is why it is so important for primary care physicians to be paid for the time it takes to discuss end-of-life options with a patient before he is seriously ill. This doesn’t mean that a physician should push a patient to make potentially upsetting decisions about whether he would want a feeding tube, or whether he would choose to be put on a ventilator. Just explaining what palliative care is (many patients have never heard of it), and that if a patient is in the hospital he has a right to ask for a palliative care consult (some surgeons and oncologists will never tell him about it) could make all of the difference between dying alone, in pain, in an ICU, and dying at home, pain controlled, holding the hand of a loved one.
While there are several aspects of health reform that I don’t like and don’t support, I think conservatives have done and are doing the public a disservice on the end of life care issue.
Recently, PBS’ Frontline aired a program called “Facing Death.” The featured patients suffered mainly from advanced cancer and dementia. One point made that I, and I suspect many others, were not aware of is that in the late stages of these diseases, 95% of the time the patient either cannot communicate at all or cannot understand what is being said to them well enough to make an informed decision. If the patient does not have a living will or advance medical directive, or never discussed feelings about end of life care even informally with anyone, family members are left to agonize over what their loved one would have wanted. This just adds to the already considerable emotional burden on families.
When it comes to end of life care, the primary issue for the patient is does he/she want heroics or not? We’re generally talking about ventilators, feeding tubes, DNR orders, surgical intervention, and, mainly for cancer patients, experimental drug trials. With respect to pain management, do you want an aggressive approach even at the risk of hastening death or not? Most patients facing an end of life situation probably suffer from Alzheimer’s, dementia, advanced cancer, CHF, other heart disease, ESRD, a severe stroke or a catastrophic accident.
Plenty of people have no problem hiring a lawyer at a cost of several hundred dollars to prepare a relatively simple conventional will. Somehow, though, the idea of paying a doctor the same several hundred dollars, even for middle income and upper income patients who can afford it, doesn’t cross their mind. Only about 30% of the population currently has a living will. While the document is not the be all and end all for resolving end of life issues, it’s a heck of a lot better than nothing. If patients don’t want to address this issue to provide guidance for medical providers, they should do it for their families.
Maggie/Naomi- Much gratitude for continuing to blog on this isdsue.
The way I would frame it for Obama is that every American citizen DESERVES to choose to have as dignified and as pain free a death as bio-medicine can possibly offer them. This framing would on its surface seem attractive to Republicans who advocate for self determination. But instead Republicans incorrectly spin it as Big Government literally deciding who should live and who should die. (“DEATH PANELS”)
I’m not so sure our nation is ready for a serious discussion on this issue?
Yet is is the SINGLE most important national discussion we could possibly have.
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
Barry–
I totallly agree. And I’m afraid that this is a case where some conservatives seem to care more about scoring against Obama than doing what would be best for patients.
As you say, a living will doeosn’t solve all problems. (Too often, hospitals and doctors ignore a living will. Relatives who want the hospital to follow the will’s instructions find that they must battle the administration, ask for a meeting of the ethcis committee, etc.)
And sometimes what is said in the living will doesn’t fit the exact situation.
That said, it is definitely better than nothing.
And in terms of paying for it–when my husband and I made a will a regular number of years ago, the attorney asked if we would also want a living will–and a document appointing someone to make medical decisions for us if we couldn’t.
We said yes. I don’t remember if he charged us extra–he may have. But I do remember that the whole thing cost us less than $400.
(Tip we went to a reputable experienced attorney recommended by a friend out on Long Island in the Hamptons. This is why the will cost so much less than it would have in Manhattan. It was also a very short will. The whole meeting took less than 1/2 hour.)
In the end, though, there is nothing better than making sure a patient has a chance to consult with a palliative care specialist while very sick (but not necessarily dying.)
What the patient says at that point will be taken more seriously than something she said 10 year earlier when healthy.
Also the palliative care specialists can lay out all of the options, explain them clearly, and if, necessary, fight for the patient if other doctors want to go ahead with extraordinary treatments.
In addition, the palliative care specialist is an expert in addressing pain , even while the patient continues with treatment.
So anyone who is seriously ill shoudl ask for a palliative care specialists. You don’t have to be dying. You have a right to a consult–assuming the hospital has a palliative care team.
If a relative is seriously ill and is going to be admitted to a hospital check and MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE PALLIATiVE CARE BEFORE HE IS ADMITTED.
IF THEY DON’T INSIST ON ANOTHER HOSPITAL even if it is further from home.
It’s better to talk to a sick relative by phone than to watch him suffering excrutiating pain in person. Most hospitals, nurses and doctors tend to undertreat pain.
Palliative care physicians understand that pain is a disease–and that pain can kill.
Dr. Rick,
Thank you!